Thursday, December 13, 2007

Why we Fight

12 comments:

Crystal Starr said...

Isn't that interesting...

I. Love. You.

dbackdad said...

Yep, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. [sigh]

Anonymous said...

questionabe. Provide stat sources and funding of said analysis. Break it down, man.

Anonymous said...

not trying to give you heat, but one of the most if not primary facts about this whole sitch is that the only Nation that has pumped an ounce of oil out of Iraq, other than Iraqi owned interests are Norwegian, as in Norway. Not the US or Brit or France or any other nation. The knee- jerk response is Halliburton, but the fact of the matter is that they are not in the biz of pumping or refining, so take that fallicy of the table. So what are our global dominating interests, really? If the big US global domination thing were as real and pertinent as the anti capitlist crowd claims, we'd be moving tanks into Buenes Ares and Mexico City and every other Ceneral/South American country within our immediate grasp. This map represents a very specific moment, frozen in past-present-and future, insisting on immediacy. What about recent strikes in the Gulf (of Mexico) [deep and shallow wells that have surpassed expectations innumerably] I have more....

Laura said...

True for the 20th century, but how do we explain the conflicts before oil was discovered in the middle east?

Scott said...

Nomenclat,

Welcome to the blog!

I don't mean to say THE reason we fight, but it's certainly a contributing factor. Just watch the video in my previous post of Mike Huckabee stating we must stop Iran from having nukes in order to avoid "instability in the oil market." Understand when one says we go to war for oil it is not to say we are fighting to acquire oil directly, but rather fighting to keep people in power who we think will sell us oil in our terms.

I should state that I'm not AT ALL an anti-capitalist, as any of my readers could attest. Using the government's guns to force other people to sell us oil is no capitalist model. Quite the opposite to be sure. In an ideal capitalist model we would simply buy oil from Iran or Iraq and there's really no reason to believe they wouldn't sell it to us. What good is it for them to have such a commodity of they don't sell it? Not only that but history has given no sign that there would be any reason to fear a shut off of oil from any given nation.


Laura,

I can't say I'm read up enough on pre-twentieth century mid-east history to know the answer to that. One suspects things like external imperialism, internal tribalism, and of course the crusades did some damage.

Anonymous said...

Been reading for a while now, and would not call you an anti-capitalist, and really enjoyed the Huckabee post BTW. REALLY enjoy it when you get into specifics of the Federalist and Anti Federalist Papers. You got a good thing going here and look forward to future posts over the course of the future - you have a fantastic way of looking at any given issue by exploring the roots instead of just concentrating and whining about the moment as many many blogs do.

The Zombieslayer said...

Scott - Is there a better picture of that? Even with my glasses on, I can't read the small print.

The Zombieslayer said...

And yes, I did click the picture and it made it bigger, but still can't read it.

Scott said...

Sorry, that's the only image I could find.

Scott said...

And BTW, thanks for the kind words Nomenclat. Have you a blog of your own?

Anonymous said...

yes, but it's in flux right now, transitioning from the {my} rantings to more visually oriented, communications and arts oriented, I think you've visited...
monkeyeggs.blogspot.com Dropped the use of my real name due to some 'policies' at the day job. You may dig the placeholder You Tube channel that I have up at the moment, a series of four lo-fi video training experiments. Shooting for Jan 1 as a 're-launch' date.